Q: Hi Gwen,
I was with a friend, and she stopped at one of her aquaintances house. There was a lady there with a small trailer, and a two yr old horse. The horse was there to be trimmed, when we were there the man had already finished with her, and you could tell her feet were sore by the way she was holding them. They were trying to load her onto the trailer, and you could tell she was just terrified. She jerked back, flipped over backwards, and they kept on trying to force her in. There ended up being 3 big men trying to force this poor girl in, they had a rope under her belly, one around her neck, and one behind her butt, plus they were hitting her with the ropes, swinging very very hard. I tried to intervene, it made me sick just to see it, but they refused any help. In an instance like that, IF you can get the owners to stop and let you have a go, what is the best way to get a scared horse in so that they will stop abusing it?
A: Well, actually, Angela gave a perfect example of how to do this without physical force in a situation where time is of the essence. But, depending on the time that everyone has, it all boils down to changing the horse's beliefs. People with ropes around the horse is serving one purpose only ... Scaring the pants off the horse! Absolutely embedding the fear of trailering (and of humans) into the horse and displaying a choreographed lesson in learning one cannot win a tug of war against a 1/2 ton animal.
Part of the foundation of teaching a scared horse onto a trailer (or anywhere else) is to learn to know/feel what an animal expects to happen next ... (horse's belief)... And then be able to teach the horse to change his beliefs. Neither you nor I nor anyone else can do that for him. The horse has to change his own beliefs and has to learn to actively override his choices to believe that the one choice that he's going to make is going to put him in a better place than the moment before. In this case, the horse was terrified and being asked to go into a small, cavern-like space with 3 huge men bullying him making him believe he's going to die. So, you can see that this cannot be done in any sort of humanely contrived time limit. But, with positive reinforcement, the time involved can be reduced considerably as each moment the horse is changing his beliefs is going to speed up the process for the next change. The first belief that needs to be changed is the belief the horse is going to die. That is a panic response that is autonomic. It's hardwired into the horse - the "flight" response. This is the strongest survival instinct the horse has. To override that one needs to catch the horse just the split second BEFORE it kicks into gear. Once its in gear then the horse HAS to move its feet and it ain't gonna be moving them towards the cave that's going to engulf him! So, let the horse move its feet. Let him move away from the trailer. Stay with the horse doing nothing ... Just staying with him. Once the horse starts to settle, mark that behavior (click) and reward him (treat). You mark the "settling", or the "relaxing". From there you can now get a foot in the door. Build up, step-by-step, figuratively and actually, to where you can begin to direct the horse's feet. You start with the head-down (relaxation) then work from there but only AFTER you've gotten the horse to stop moving its feet in fear. Don't FORCE anything ... Force is only going to undo all that you've already done and set you back gazillion steps. Remember to reward the try ... And once the horse has completed a task just 3 times perfectly, move onto the next step. Don't keep on repeating over and over and over. Again, know/feel what the horse believes is going to happen "next" and change that "belief" by asking the opposite. If the horse believes that you're going to ask for another step forward, ask for a step backwards or sideways and CT. Then ask for the step forward. That way you're interrupting the "stuck" belief and causing the horse to think. As he's thinking, he's changing his beliefs. So HE'S the one making the changes; you are not the one forcing them. It's important to allow horses to believe HE'S the one making the changes - everything your horse believes he's learned from his own interpretations and experiences. All beliefs are learned but not all are 'taught'.
I know this is a very general answer but it has to be cause each horse is an individual and has individual beliefs. But the concept is universal when working with horses at any time.
Monday, August 13, 2007
The Nipping Pony
Q: I have a 3 yr old filly that is my daughters placement pony, now MacKenzie and Kayleigh get along GREAT most of the time, but Kenzie has this bad habit every now and then of reaching back and nipping whomever is touching her. And every time she has done it, it as been unprovoked, and very very random. Since there is no set trigger so far, I am not sure how to stop this behavior. Any suggestions?
A: 3 years old is still a baby BUT *should* be old enough to know that human critters aren't teething rings! Sounds like this is more of a way to cope with annoyance, however, than teething. Although remember, 3 year olds are still teething! At any rate ... I use Clicker Training to teach a horse not to bite or nip simply by allowing them to run into my finger on the side of the face and when the horse turns its head back forwards I click and reward. I also use the verbal cue "Face!" You can teach this separately from the nipping behavior and then when the pony goes to nip, tell her,"FACE!". Then be sure to CT her when she does "face".
I also will play with a nipping pony's or horse's mouth, A LOT! I will pretty much do so with the attitude of, "OH, so you want to get your teeth and mouth working? OK! Let's do it!" and I will vigorously massage the nostrils, the lips, the muzzle, stick my fingers (carefully) into the side of the mouth to "play piano" on the tongue and will keep doing it until the pony or horse starts to say, "Nooooooo! Stop it!!! You're making me crazy!!!!!" and then I'll keep doing it a bit more. *grin* So, everytime the horse or pony goes to "nip", I'll say, "EH! - FACE!" and then play with the mouth and tongue a bit. That being said, however, this is dependant upon the attitude of the horse or pony when nipping. A 3 year old is still going to be teething as I said. So *my* attitude is going to be different with a teething pony than with a deliberate nip out of annoyance. Your attitude will make all the difference in the world - more so than the actual "exercise" to face. With a pony that's nipping my attitude is more of a "teaching" attitude while with a bonafide biter or nipper I have an assertive attitude of authority. My attitude is directly corresponding to the attitude of the nipper/biter at this point. So, try teaching the "Face!" and using your click/bridge and treat to reinforce the lesson. Let us know how you do!
A: 3 years old is still a baby BUT *should* be old enough to know that human critters aren't teething rings! Sounds like this is more of a way to cope with annoyance, however, than teething. Although remember, 3 year olds are still teething! At any rate ... I use Clicker Training to teach a horse not to bite or nip simply by allowing them to run into my finger on the side of the face and when the horse turns its head back forwards I click and reward. I also use the verbal cue "Face!" You can teach this separately from the nipping behavior and then when the pony goes to nip, tell her,"FACE!". Then be sure to CT her when she does "face".
I also will play with a nipping pony's or horse's mouth, A LOT! I will pretty much do so with the attitude of, "OH, so you want to get your teeth and mouth working? OK! Let's do it!" and I will vigorously massage the nostrils, the lips, the muzzle, stick my fingers (carefully) into the side of the mouth to "play piano" on the tongue and will keep doing it until the pony or horse starts to say, "Nooooooo! Stop it!!! You're making me crazy!!!!!" and then I'll keep doing it a bit more. *grin* So, everytime the horse or pony goes to "nip", I'll say, "EH! - FACE!" and then play with the mouth and tongue a bit. That being said, however, this is dependant upon the attitude of the horse or pony when nipping. A 3 year old is still going to be teething as I said. So *my* attitude is going to be different with a teething pony than with a deliberate nip out of annoyance. Your attitude will make all the difference in the world - more so than the actual "exercise" to face. With a pony that's nipping my attitude is more of a "teaching" attitude while with a bonafide biter or nipper I have an assertive attitude of authority. My attitude is directly corresponding to the attitude of the nipper/biter at this point. So, try teaching the "Face!" and using your click/bridge and treat to reinforce the lesson. Let us know how you do!
Tuesday, June 5, 2007
VACCINES & LAMINITIS
Once again, this spring, I've noticed a dramatic increase on the number of laminitic horses around Vaccinating time. So much so that I am researching frenetically to put together a viable article on this topic.
Last year at this time I received an overwhelming number of "emergency" calls that came in similar to this, "Hi Gwen. Just thought you might want to know that "Lady" has Laminitis! She's REALLY sore in her fronts! I called the vet and he said she had Laminitis. He thinks that she may have to go into shoes ..." Blah, blah, blah. With every call from one of my own clients I had to seriously question what *I* might have done wrong to cause Laminitis in my normally very sound barefooted clients! When trimming a horse for maintenance hoofcare I don't change the angles or do much else other than to bring back the toes a wee bit (by beveling a 45* angle) as nature would do and level the heels a bit. I never touch sole, rarely touch the bars and generally speaking on my regular clients I rarely rocker the toes as they maintain their own rockers nicely. So what in tarnation causes the horse to go laminitic with a regular maintenance trim!?!?!? I rack my brains, worry myself sick and begin to doubt myself every time. But EVERY CASE it came up (I finally got a bit savvy about it this spring whereas last spring I was stumped for awhile before figuring it all out) that the horse in question had just received Spring Vaccinations within a day to a few prior to the trim!
Last spring, as I stated, I got alot of "emergency" calls from "new" clients ... ones who were calling me for the first time. Again, looking back, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM had *just* received their spring vaccinations a day or two prior to the laminitic attack! This spring, as a current example, I pulled the shoes and trimmed up a horse who was very sore in her recently re-set shoes. Her hooves were very imbalanced, she was very long in the toe and low and forward in the heels; the shoes were not fitting her correctly and the owner asked me to pull them and trim her. So I did. That was in March. In that case I did change the angles of the hooves dramatically and while the horse was a bit tender for the first few days it didn't take long to get another phone call from the owner stating that her horse was moving better and she was more comfortable than she had been for a couple of years! Over the following 5 weeks or so the horse continued to improve and it was noted by all in the stable where she resided as well as by her trainer. The 2nd trim, 5 weeks after the initial trim, I did VERY little to the hooves except to bevel the wall at a solid 45* angle, level off one of the heels and that was it! About a week later I got a note stating the horse was very lame, laminitic and was going back into shoes! The vet felt that since the angles were so altered that it was a "mechanical" laminitis due to the trim. I have to question that strongly as the angles were altered 5 - 6 weeks prior to the laminitic attack and if any 'mechanical laminitis' were to pop up it would have been then. Developmental laminitis lasts for up to just 60 hours before the Acute Laminitic stage. It was weeks past that 60 hrs. time frame. However, upon further questioning, the horse had received Spring shots just shortly before the 2nd trim. That tells me that the Laminitis was metabolically caused; not mechanically.
It seems, upon researching, that horses who have metabolic issues, are going to be more sensitive to vaccinations than those who are healthy. While many horses "appear" to be healthy (ie. easy keepers) it may well be that those "healthy" horses are acutally experiencing upsets in the glucose metabolism and also the hormonal systems which are going undetected. The overloads of carbohydrates, sugars, chemicals, additives, etc. all wreak havoc in any animal's system. More and more research is being done on this topic with more and more alarming findings. ( AHVMA )
My caution to all, now, is this .... IF you have your horses vaccinated do NOT have hoofcare work done within a couple of weeks following the vaccination day. Plan your vaccinations in between hoofcare appointments. Better than that see what vaccinations you can eliminate from your regular "scheduled" routine. It's been recently found that Americans are over-vaccinating their animals (and kids!). There are some excellent websites with good, solid information. Google up a search on "over vaccinating" or just plain "vaccinations" and see what you come up with. Your horse DEPENDS on you 100% for his/her total well-being. It behooves us to learn as much as we can and not just "believe" everything we hear. (including reading this! *grin*)
I will be publishing an in-depth article on this topic shortly. Keep an eye on www.thepenzancehorse.com and www.barefoottrim.com for updates. Thanks! Happy and Safe Horsemanship to You! (and lots of Blessings, too!)
Last year at this time I received an overwhelming number of "emergency" calls that came in similar to this, "Hi Gwen. Just thought you might want to know that "Lady" has Laminitis! She's REALLY sore in her fronts! I called the vet and he said she had Laminitis. He thinks that she may have to go into shoes ..." Blah, blah, blah. With every call from one of my own clients I had to seriously question what *I* might have done wrong to cause Laminitis in my normally very sound barefooted clients! When trimming a horse for maintenance hoofcare I don't change the angles or do much else other than to bring back the toes a wee bit (by beveling a 45* angle) as nature would do and level the heels a bit. I never touch sole, rarely touch the bars and generally speaking on my regular clients I rarely rocker the toes as they maintain their own rockers nicely. So what in tarnation causes the horse to go laminitic with a regular maintenance trim!?!?!? I rack my brains, worry myself sick and begin to doubt myself every time. But EVERY CASE it came up (I finally got a bit savvy about it this spring whereas last spring I was stumped for awhile before figuring it all out) that the horse in question had just received Spring Vaccinations within a day to a few prior to the trim!
Last spring, as I stated, I got alot of "emergency" calls from "new" clients ... ones who were calling me for the first time. Again, looking back, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM had *just* received their spring vaccinations a day or two prior to the laminitic attack! This spring, as a current example, I pulled the shoes and trimmed up a horse who was very sore in her recently re-set shoes. Her hooves were very imbalanced, she was very long in the toe and low and forward in the heels; the shoes were not fitting her correctly and the owner asked me to pull them and trim her. So I did. That was in March. In that case I did change the angles of the hooves dramatically and while the horse was a bit tender for the first few days it didn't take long to get another phone call from the owner stating that her horse was moving better and she was more comfortable than she had been for a couple of years! Over the following 5 weeks or so the horse continued to improve and it was noted by all in the stable where she resided as well as by her trainer. The 2nd trim, 5 weeks after the initial trim, I did VERY little to the hooves except to bevel the wall at a solid 45* angle, level off one of the heels and that was it! About a week later I got a note stating the horse was very lame, laminitic and was going back into shoes! The vet felt that since the angles were so altered that it was a "mechanical" laminitis due to the trim. I have to question that strongly as the angles were altered 5 - 6 weeks prior to the laminitic attack and if any 'mechanical laminitis' were to pop up it would have been then. Developmental laminitis lasts for up to just 60 hours before the Acute Laminitic stage. It was weeks past that 60 hrs. time frame. However, upon further questioning, the horse had received Spring shots just shortly before the 2nd trim. That tells me that the Laminitis was metabolically caused; not mechanically.
It seems, upon researching, that horses who have metabolic issues, are going to be more sensitive to vaccinations than those who are healthy. While many horses "appear" to be healthy (ie. easy keepers) it may well be that those "healthy" horses are acutally experiencing upsets in the glucose metabolism and also the hormonal systems which are going undetected. The overloads of carbohydrates, sugars, chemicals, additives, etc. all wreak havoc in any animal's system. More and more research is being done on this topic with more and more alarming findings. ( AHVMA )
My caution to all, now, is this .... IF you have your horses vaccinated do NOT have hoofcare work done within a couple of weeks following the vaccination day. Plan your vaccinations in between hoofcare appointments. Better than that see what vaccinations you can eliminate from your regular "scheduled" routine. It's been recently found that Americans are over-vaccinating their animals (and kids!). There are some excellent websites with good, solid information. Google up a search on "over vaccinating" or just plain "vaccinations" and see what you come up with. Your horse DEPENDS on you 100% for his/her total well-being. It behooves us to learn as much as we can and not just "believe" everything we hear. (including reading this! *grin*)
I will be publishing an in-depth article on this topic shortly. Keep an eye on www.thepenzancehorse.com and www.barefoottrim.com for updates. Thanks! Happy and Safe Horsemanship to You! (and lots of Blessings, too!)
Thursday, April 19, 2007
The Journey
This written in response to a forum at NHE:
If one comes from many years as a horseman I think that NHE and its philosophies are a journey into another thought realm and lifestyle. Just as we help the horse to change his or her perceptions of the world around humans we humans must change our perceptions as well. Both species being those that are comfortable with the familiar and both species those that dislike disharmony. Trying to blend two different species together into a singular realm of presence is nothing less than a stupendous effort on both sides. Probably more so for the human than for the horse. But, it is that singular realm of presence that is that which we strive. It is wrought with frustrations and tears and many questions; most of which the horse, if listened to very carefully, can answer for us. We only need to get into the mind existance of the horse, himself, to understand that reality in which our horses live. To do that we must become small in thought ... singular, momentary, that "now" thought and leave the anticipations of what might become or what has past behind. It is a difficult journey at times and filled with what may seem impossible tasks at times but the spirit of the horse, if we seek that, will lead us along the way with the guidance of Our Creator.
If one comes from many years as a horseman I think that NHE and its philosophies are a journey into another thought realm and lifestyle. Just as we help the horse to change his or her perceptions of the world around humans we humans must change our perceptions as well. Both species being those that are comfortable with the familiar and both species those that dislike disharmony. Trying to blend two different species together into a singular realm of presence is nothing less than a stupendous effort on both sides. Probably more so for the human than for the horse. But, it is that singular realm of presence that is that which we strive. It is wrought with frustrations and tears and many questions; most of which the horse, if listened to very carefully, can answer for us. We only need to get into the mind existance of the horse, himself, to understand that reality in which our horses live. To do that we must become small in thought ... singular, momentary, that "now" thought and leave the anticipations of what might become or what has past behind. It is a difficult journey at times and filled with what may seem impossible tasks at times but the spirit of the horse, if we seek that, will lead us along the way with the guidance of Our Creator.
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Saturday, March 17, 2007
St. Patty's Day Nor'Easter
Friday, March 16, 2007
Musings on a Snowy Day
Well, New England has done it again ... bamboozled us all. Last week was gorgeous with sunshine, warm temps and dreams of blooming perennials and prolifate organic vegetables in between blissful games and rides; today it is freezing and we're in the midst of a blizzard. Even the horses have had enough. Don't want to stay out in it; don't want to be inside. They're vascillating between their sheds and the wind with tossing heads, short gallops around with hooves in the air. My 3 year old just displayed the most awesome "airs above the ground"! My thought at that moment was, "Gee, how the heck can I put that to a liberty cue?" *grin* But, we'll work on it AFTER her manners are absolutely impeccable and she's not so young and silly. And, after the weather has warmed back up again!
This time indoors this weekend will allow me to do some more musing on things. Since I've left the indoor where I was working (sort of) I've again become more acutely aware of my goals for Penzance Horses. In as much as the trainer at "the other barn" proclaimed to be more "natural" I realized even more so that "natural horsemanship" isn't about the "method" or the "tool", the carrot stick, the halter, the tack and equipment used or not ... Horsemanship really IS just what Penzance's motto speaks ... "It's all about what's in your heart and how you use it." One can "speak" with his or her tongue about 'natural horsemanship' but if that person isn't harboring that thought in his or her heart then the words are empty. The humans who are led to Penzance come with either a slate that needs to be entirely erased and they're more than willing to do the erasing or people who are clean slates, just starting out. Our horsemanship isn't something that humans *do*; it's something that humans LIVE, in their hearts, in their minds, in their very souls and spirits.
People who "dabble" in 'natural horsemanship' tend to "dabble" in life. Focus always changing, beliefs always changing, hearts that are not cemented in the foundation of certainty. Unless their hearts are securely founded in the 'way of life' such as is found at Penzance one cannot know WHO one is! Discovering one's self, though, is a journey but when people lose track of the path and refuse to go one way or the other they're stuck in that fork ... vascillating between left or right or middle road or another path altogether. Someone's voice, maybe even his own inner voice, may lead them down one path where the light becomes dimmer the deeper along the road one travels; then another voice may lead them back to take the other fork in the road where the dimness is not so apparent but neither is the clarity of light. Either way, unless one finds THE path that is right for them, for their horses, then the heart remains stuck in one place. Life becomes robotic and stagnant.
The one TRUE voice and path belongs to the horse, himself. When we open our hearts and minds and spirits to the horse's way then we journey on paths that illuminate our entire lives. One cannot meld into the horse's heart and being without melding completely into God's heart and being. Anything else, anything less than a complete melding, is just a tease of hope.
It is my hope that anyone who is led to Penzance will learn to follow the path that God and His horses introduce to him. It is my prayer that one who comes and stays will learn how to hear the voice of the horse ... and of God. Their voices are mighty! Their voices are whispers of the lighted journey that each one of us must choose to complete our hopes. Anything less, any other voices, are shouts of muted noise and only cause confusion. Confusion is not of God. Confusion is not of Horse. Confusion is not of Life. Life lived fully, completely, with whole heart is all encompassing and unshakeable. This I've learned from the Horse. It is my goal that the Penzance Horse will lead many to Truth this season. It is my goal that my own heart will continue to follow the path that God and Horse have shown me, and continue to patiently show me, and I will not listen to others. It is my hope, my desire and my goal that Penzance will live up to its name of definition - God's Holy Headland; A place for spiritual growth.
And now, back to the white stuff. Reality ... shoveling driveways, breaking ice in water buckets and ensuring that the horses are warm and dry with plenty of fresh, sweet hay.
This time indoors this weekend will allow me to do some more musing on things. Since I've left the indoor where I was working (sort of) I've again become more acutely aware of my goals for Penzance Horses. In as much as the trainer at "the other barn" proclaimed to be more "natural" I realized even more so that "natural horsemanship" isn't about the "method" or the "tool", the carrot stick, the halter, the tack and equipment used or not ... Horsemanship really IS just what Penzance's motto speaks ... "It's all about what's in your heart and how you use it." One can "speak" with his or her tongue about 'natural horsemanship' but if that person isn't harboring that thought in his or her heart then the words are empty. The humans who are led to Penzance come with either a slate that needs to be entirely erased and they're more than willing to do the erasing or people who are clean slates, just starting out. Our horsemanship isn't something that humans *do*; it's something that humans LIVE, in their hearts, in their minds, in their very souls and spirits.
People who "dabble" in 'natural horsemanship' tend to "dabble" in life. Focus always changing, beliefs always changing, hearts that are not cemented in the foundation of certainty. Unless their hearts are securely founded in the 'way of life' such as is found at Penzance one cannot know WHO one is! Discovering one's self, though, is a journey but when people lose track of the path and refuse to go one way or the other they're stuck in that fork ... vascillating between left or right or middle road or another path altogether. Someone's voice, maybe even his own inner voice, may lead them down one path where the light becomes dimmer the deeper along the road one travels; then another voice may lead them back to take the other fork in the road where the dimness is not so apparent but neither is the clarity of light. Either way, unless one finds THE path that is right for them, for their horses, then the heart remains stuck in one place. Life becomes robotic and stagnant.
The one TRUE voice and path belongs to the horse, himself. When we open our hearts and minds and spirits to the horse's way then we journey on paths that illuminate our entire lives. One cannot meld into the horse's heart and being without melding completely into God's heart and being. Anything else, anything less than a complete melding, is just a tease of hope.
It is my hope that anyone who is led to Penzance will learn to follow the path that God and His horses introduce to him. It is my prayer that one who comes and stays will learn how to hear the voice of the horse ... and of God. Their voices are mighty! Their voices are whispers of the lighted journey that each one of us must choose to complete our hopes. Anything less, any other voices, are shouts of muted noise and only cause confusion. Confusion is not of God. Confusion is not of Horse. Confusion is not of Life. Life lived fully, completely, with whole heart is all encompassing and unshakeable. This I've learned from the Horse. It is my goal that the Penzance Horse will lead many to Truth this season. It is my goal that my own heart will continue to follow the path that God and Horse have shown me, and continue to patiently show me, and I will not listen to others. It is my hope, my desire and my goal that Penzance will live up to its name of definition - God's Holy Headland; A place for spiritual growth.
And now, back to the white stuff. Reality ... shoveling driveways, breaking ice in water buckets and ensuring that the horses are warm and dry with plenty of fresh, sweet hay.
Monday, March 12, 2007
Control that Animal!

Control? OK, here's a question ... do we REALLY HAVE CONTROL of a 1200# animal? Ever?:) -- Gwen"
Hi Gwen,
I gonna stick my neck out and answer this one, ...and the answer is a short and simple "No!"
We can attain a simple, very primitive form of 'control' through the use of pain, ...for a while, ...until the fear and the adrenaline kick-in to over-ride the pain, ...and then we've got B-I-G problems 'cos sometime, and somewhere, it *is* going to happen! -The horse *is* going to be pushed over the edge and is going to do whatever it takes to get out of the situation it's in ...-and I certainly never even want to be around when that happens!!!
The only way that I can see of "controlling" a horse is through its mind, -through contact, -through working together, -through learning from each other and through creating a partnership, as pain and force will only work for a limited time at best and will never bring out the best in the horse!
Say that I own an island. I have food, equipment, supplies, ..everything I need, not only to survive and defend myself, but to live very comfortably, ...-and then, one day, another person is washed up on the beach and I take them prisoner and tie them up in a way that limits their movements.
Allow also for this scenario that I am equipped with guns and Tazers and cattle prods and whips, etc., so I can force them to work for me and to do whatever I want, quite literally "on pain of death".
I can stick metal bars or other gags in their mouth, bind their mouth shut with straps, I can force them to carry heavy loads, I can prod them with sharp artefacts or whip them when they don't move fast enough, I can force them to run, I can force them to stand still while I set various straps on them to control the position of their heads, adjust the length of their stride and then force them to run in un-natural ways; I can blind-fold them and make them jump obstacles that they can't see, ....I can, in fact, do whatever I like, both to them and with them, ...but one day they *are* going to snap, they *are* going to rebel, they *are* going to "have a go at me" ...-and what do I do then, -especially if they are bigger than I am??? ("Ahhhh!!!", my pistol is still in my holster and I've let them get too close!)
Now, as this mythical prisoner is a human, the chances are that they would have been able to find out where I slept and would have killed me in my sleep,
Of course, there is something else that I could have done with the person who was washed up on the beach.... -I think! ...Isn't there????
Gordon.
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